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Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

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    by: SC
    SaleHoo Senior Member
    57 posts

    Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 20 Aug 06 1:22 pm.

    Where: Alibaba(Trading Website) Listing
    Who: Bdi Technologies
    Payment: PayPal
    How Much: $865.00 USD
    What: PSPs
    Scammers e-mail: link hidden
    Scammers Fake Name: John Mendesa

    This sucks. Can't believe I actually got scammed. I'm usually pretty good with these things. They accepted PayPal! What the hell! DON'T LISTEN TO ANYONE THAT SAYS PAYPAL IS SAFE FOR PAYMENTS OUTSIDE OF EBAY
    I filed a dispute with PayPal, and it was decided in my favor, but they said they couldn't get anything from the seller's account!

    This was there response...
    'We have completed our investigation of this case. We attempted to process a refund from the seller's account to your account. Unfortunately, the seller's account does not contain the funds necessary to cover this refund. We were able to recover $0.00 USD. We have taken action against the seller and are working to recover the remainder of your refund. We will contact you when we have more information. No further action is required of you at this time.'
    This scammer will obviously never make a deposit in his FAKE account.

    I thought PayPal would be able to withdraw the funds from the seller's bank account. That's not the case; the seller has to have money in his/her PayPal account to be able to receive anything.
    Anyone can be scammed by PayPal, all they have to do is open an account, scam someone, get the funds transferred to their bank account, then close the account.

    Has anyone been through this situation?
    What should I do now?
    Is there a website that handles cases like this that can get my money back?

    I want to get his ip address...
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    by: Jennifer77
    SaleHoo Master Member
    163 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 21 Aug 06 1:37 am.

    awww man that sucks......isnt there a way for pay pal to find his bank account. I meanw hen i signed up for my pay pal i have to give bannk info.

    There has to be a way for Pay Palt o find this out. Did you try calling pay pal instead of havinf emails sent back and forth.
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    by: thomasjm99
    SaleHoo Senior Member
    53 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 21 Aug 06 3:03 pm.

    Make sure PayPal stays on the invesitigation, do not just let it slide. It may take some time to get your money back but they should be able to do so. Just keep complaining, call them every other day. Ask to speak with managers etc... Getting your money back 6 weeks from now is better than not at all...
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    by: mslilly
    SaleHoo Master Member
    180 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 23 Aug 06 1:01 am.

    Wow, I didn't know this! New to me!!!!

    Makes me only want to use my credit card!!!

    Good luck!
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    by: Dreamer148
    SaleHoo Junior Member
    31 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 23 Aug 06 4:44 am.

    wow thats horrible. I kept thinking PayPal was safe. Did you get the 'money back guarantee' thing on that transaction?
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    by: SC
    SaleHoo Senior Member
    57 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 24 Aug 06 4:57 am.

    there is no money back guarantees from paypal if the transaction is outside of ebay

    -RB!
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    by: salehoo_group
    SaleHoo Staff
    2057 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 24 Aug 06 7:32 am.

    Did you pay with funds from your Paypal account or from a credit card? If you used your credit card to fund the transaction contact your CC compnay immediately and complete a chargeback!

    You have 60 days to do this usually from when the money was taken out.

    Let us know.

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    by: mana2006
    SaleHoo Master Member
    379 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 24 Aug 06 4:07 pm.

    There is one method in the USA that can help. They do have a lot of internet complaints about fraud and scams and can rarely do anything. But for your own protection it is best to submit the info and file a claim. Its a goverment website that works with local law enforcement agencies and the FBI.

    link hidden
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    by: mana2006
    SaleHoo Master Member
    379 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 24 Aug 06 4:20 pm.

    I sent the company a message and I will get a possible IP address for you if they respond to my email.
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    by: SC
    SaleHoo Senior Member
    57 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 25 Aug 06 2:55 pm.

    Did you pay with funds from your Paypal account or from a credit card? If you used your credit card to fund the transaction contact your CC compnay immediately and complete a chargeback!

    You have 60 days to do this usually from when the money was taken out.

    Let us know.
    Funds were from my PayPal account. Plus, I contacted my cc company before about making cc payments to companies that end up being fraud. This was there response...

    We would like to inform that any transaction, regardless how they are made, that is online or in store, require that you provide your RBC Visa card number and your expiry date. They constitute an agreement between you and the merchant you are dealing with. As a result, should this transaction be fraudulent and you would have paid willingly for either, a good or a service, the amount spent would not be refunded. Therefore, we advise you to be very careful about making online transactions before making them. RBC Royal Bank Visa cannot be held accountable of the use you are doing of your RBC Visa.
    So, I don't see how a chargeback would work
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    by: SC
    SaleHoo Senior Member
    57 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 25 Aug 06 2:59 pm.

    I sent the company a message and I will get a possible IP address for you if they respond to my email.
    Thanks, I appreciate your help

    Yea, I've contacted link hidden before for a non-related issue regarding a site, and they never got back to me

    It seems like the only way to have them investigate something, is if they get a bunch of complaints of a certain individual/site
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    by: mana2006
    SaleHoo Master Member
    379 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 25 Aug 06 5:33 pm.

    I sent an email and all they did was read it. There is a 40% chance that the user is in New York. I didn't get an IP or anything because they never sent me a message in return. Guess this person has made these types of transactions before and sorta knows what they are doing. Sorry I couldn't do more. I used readnotify.com for the tracking service.
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    by: ErseErseInc
    SaleHoo Junior Member
    49 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 27 Aug 06 4:43 am.

    This happens all the time with paypal. Seller opens up an account, keeps it on the low for some time, then starts making huge transactions, doesn't withdraw funds right away because then paypal stops them, wait for a huge sum, does one large dump to his bank account and bails with the cash. People that's why I say....AMEX NEVER LEAVE HOME, OR YOUR COMPUTER WITHOUT IT!
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    by: SC
    SaleHoo Senior Member
    57 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 29 Aug 06 9:20 pm.

    If I only knew about the real PayPal.
    Salehoo shouldn't be advertising it as safe, which is clearly not the case.
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    by: SC
    SaleHoo Senior Member
    57 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 30 Aug 06 2:14 am.

    I sent an email and all they did was read it. There is a 40% chance that the user is in New York. I didn't get an IP or anything because they never sent me a message in return. Guess this person has made these types of transactions before and sorta knows what they are doing. Sorry I couldn't do more. I used readnotify.com for the tracking service.
    How do you know that theres a 40% chance that this user is from NY? What else did the service say?

    Thanks.
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    by: mana2006
    SaleHoo Master Member
    379 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 31 Aug 06 12:12 am.

    He sent me another email and I got a 40% chance that he is in Cali. The guy is good. lol . Send me a pm and I will send the results via your personal email
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    by: Abstrakt
    New SaleHoo Member
    6 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 31 Aug 06 1:50 am.

    I am having probs with paypal at the moment as well.
    I had a guy buy from one of my auctions, he paid by paypal, I transferred once recieved to my bank account and then posted goods.
    Couple of days later I get mail from paypal and ebay saying buyer had lodged complaint that account had been unorthorised use.
    I sent paypal details and tracking number for goods, and waited. A week later I get letter that had been resolved but in the buyers favour. My paypal account is now a negative balance (lucky so far they not taken from my bank account) and I have no goods.
    I have contested it and is still in process but it is definately not the secure, safe, methods of business that I assumed it to be.
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    by: mvm
    Approved Supplier
    217 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 31 Aug 06 1:54 am.

    Paypal stinks!!!

    We stopped using paypal as an accepted payment type about 6 months ago, what a relief. We accept all major credit cards. No more fraud issues as of yet, cross fingers.

    The fraudsters know all the loopholes of PayPal, and exploit them to the fullest to take advantage of unsuspecting sellers.

    We got burned by a PayPal scam. I do not want to go into details, Im afraid I will give wannabe scammers some good ideas!

    I vote for a boycott of PayPal.

    Good Day.

    Tiffany

    Mountain View Movies
    DVDs, Blu-ray & Video Games for the Lowest Wholesale Prices
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    by: mvm
    Approved Supplier
    217 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 31 Aug 06 1:57 am.

    I sent the company a message and I will get a possible IP address for you if they respond to my email.
    Thanks, I appreciate your help

    Yea, I've contacted link hidden before for a non-related issue regarding a site, and they never got back to me

    It seems like the only way to have them investigate something, is if they get a bunch of complaints of a certain individual/site
    Hi
    I agree with the above.
    I too filed a complaint with ic3.gov and never heard back. I filed with every fraud fighter agency possible. It is worth the time, because if a pattern is detected, they will act on it.
    Thanks
    Tiffany

    Mountain View Movies
    DVDs, Blu-ray & Video Games for the Lowest Wholesale Prices
    link hidden
    (607)432-5405

    Listed Supplier on SaleHoo

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    by: anonymous
    SaleHoo Master Member
    408 posts

    Re: Bdi Technologies - Scammers!

    Posted 31 Aug 06 2:57 am.

    I too have been scammed on paypal. I bought a watch from someone outside of ebay and never recieved the watch. They decided in my favor as well, but because the seller had no money in the account, I got nothing back. I called about it several times afterward and still did not get anything from paypal. I hate to say it, but you will probably never get anything back from the seller for those PSPs.