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[retielnairb]

Hi,

I've found a few Asian websites that are selling DVD's for as low as $3-$5. Has anyone had any experiences with these types of sites?

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[drena]

Hi

Just been and had alook at the sun74.com site

and i have a question what do they meanwhen they say dts version.

drena

[retielnairb]

I did a search in google for "DTS Version" The DTS Version seems to be a type of aduio for DVD's. It's is another format for Dolby Digital.

[drena]

cool thanks for that

drena

[jimmy_salehoo]

Just another note: These dvd's are bootleg copies of dvd movies. Trust me ive sold thousands of movies on ebay and I know the difference. Yes they are cheap and they are brand new. In most cases you have to purchase cases to put the dvd's in.


Any dvd that has A DTS logo on the front top cover of the movie is a asian bootleg. If you are not buying sealed movies with the security seals on them then you are most likely buying into bootleg movies.


Ebayers are starting to catch on to this trend and most sellers that are trying to sell these movies are getting reported to the MPAA.

If I see you selling these movies, I would turn you into the MPAA.

Bottom line Dont buy into them.

Maximum penalties if convicted is Fine up to $500,000 and 25 years in prison.

Minimum is $10,000 fine and 1 year in jail.

[retielnairb]

Hi,

Thanks for the info. It seemed too good to be true.

[brad_sickness]

Hey Jimmy, I was going to say everything you did once I heard the DTS logo on the covers... a lot of the releases like this are also for sale just after the movies are released in theatres, also showing how they can't be proper releases.

Just wondering, why would these sites still exist if they're illegal? Should we report them? You know they're illegal, I know they are too. Just wondering why they're still up.

[jmoon87]

DTS are not all made in japan bootlegs there have been quite a few U.S. versions of movies with this on the case .i have been selling dvds for 7 years on EBAY and SAVING PRIVATE RYAN was one of the most sought after versions of a DTS also GALDIATOR was for a while also .You can GOOGLE THIS and confirm it .But of course the japan versions are probaly not the correct ones.

[brad_sickness]

True, even though the DTS logo on official releases has text next to it displayed differently to the bootlegged ones. A site that's selling movies with DTS on all covers though are obviously bootlegs.

[jimmy_salehoo]

DTS are not all made in japan bootlegs there have been quite a few U.S. versions of movies with this on the case .i have been selling dvds for 7 years on EBAY and SAVING PRIVATE RYAN was one of the most sought after versions of a DTS also GALDIATOR was for a while also .You can GOOGLE THIS and confirm it .But of course the japan versions are probaly not the correct ones.

This is a topic of wide discussion all over the internet. DTS is a common high quality audio format found in literally every dvd on the market. The only thing is the MPAA doesnt Stamp DTS version on the COVER ART. You can find legal dvds that have a small dts logo on the back of the case but never on the front page of the cover art.

And I have seen the Gladiator version of what you speak of. Not a single gladiator movie sold in stores prominantly displayed a DTS logo on the top of the Disk. In fact not a single movie EVER sold in a store has ever displayed a DTS logo on the front page of the cover art.

If you have been selling dvd's on ebay for 7 years then I regret to inform you you dont know as much as you think about bootleg movies. And apparently you have never visited the ebay forums about bootleg movies because this discussion has been going on for many years.

Do a search on ebay for any disney Dvd's , there are literally hundreds of these bootleg movies sold on ebay. And are also a ver big topic of discussion in the ebay forums.

Here is just a few of the 72,000 topics discussed on the ebay forums on this subject.

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Copy of my ebay guide I wrote a while back.

THE MPAA STRICLTY ENFORCES That Thier Movies Be Sealed In Cases. Even that Manufactures that Make movies for Other Regions Have to seal thier Cases.
Manufacturers are Forced By the movie industry to sell thier Movies to retailers at a set price based on the initial date of release.And the content in the DVD be it fullscreen, Widescreen,Special Edition and so fourth. The retailers themselves can sell them at whatever price they want. The only problem is that places like SamsClub loose 44 million A year on newer Release Dvd Sales. And thier average Price on Newer Dvd's are $13.99 on average throughout thier stores. They take this loss every year because its basically written off as a advertising ploy to get the shopper into thier store to buy other items. You know you can never escape wal-mart or sams without spending more money then you originaly intended to.

ALL and I mean ALL movies Are Region Encoded And Sealed With a Security Seal On all 3 Sides Of the Case. Anyone trying to sell you a Dvd Newer Release Without the Case with some lame excuse on saving you shipping charges is full of crap. If you take the train of thought on real shipping charges for 1 case is about $8.00-$14.00 and that case has 30 movies in it most of the time.

You see listing all over Ebay stating these things.

DVD9 (Dual Layer) See this listed anywhere on your dvd movie or Case?

"The most significant advantage of DVD9 is its cheaper price and All Region coding which means it can be played in all countries multi- system (NTSC, PAL) DVD players."
Now remember what I said about Region Encoding.
SUPER DTS DVD5 (Single Layer)

These are not advertised by any legal manufacturer and are

are Well Known To be The Major Load of bootlegs selling On Ebay If you see a listing that has SUPER DTS on the top of the case then it is a bootleg plain and simple. Way too many powersellers are on ebay right now selling this junk. And most of them have no clue at all that they are selling bootlegs.
And they are all listed As SuperDts On the CoverArt and the back of the Dvd insert Shipped By these sellers.
Look anywhere on the Net These are listed Heavily as BOOTLEGS
So heres the list of things to be carefull of.
1..Region 1 movies do not have asian Symbols or writing on the disks they were designed for the US and CANADA there is no reason for them to have asian markings on them.
2..Dvd Movies are required to have a Case if they are being sold as NEW. They are not saving you money by shipping without cases they are just saving themselves extra work selling just copied disks to you.
3..Dvd Movies that Have DTS ANYWHERE ON THE FRONT OF THE CASE ARE BOOTLEGS
4..DVD9 MOVIES ARE BOOTLEGS {The MPAA does not advertise DTS or DVD9 On any movie PERIOD}
5..REGION 0 MOVIES ARE MOSTLY BOOTLEGS.. All movies are required to be region encoded. There are very few movies that were legally made
6..Sellers dont ship with case inserts and no cases to save you shipping,, They are saving themselves money,by not purchasing cases for thier bootleg movies.
7..Even Powersellers are selling Bootleg movies.
Now remember folks. Not all sellers out there are bad. Ive purchased lots of movies from many sellers on ebay and almost all of them have sold legal movies. Theres a few out there I have actually told that were selling bootlegs and they stopped it immediately after seeing proof.

[jmoon87]

Well thanks for the info but i am pretty sure the PRIVATE RYAN released by DREAMWORKS had the DTS at the top if not i stand corrected or maybe COLOMBIA HOUSE or one of the dvd clubs produced it this way ...Never said i was an expert on BOOTLEGS although you provided me with no new information just said that DTS DVDS are sold in the u.s. and will have that copyright somewhere on the dvd ..As far as EBAY FORUMS go dont always beleive everything you read as many of the posters advised me not to join this site .Good luck and GOD BLESS !

[jimmy_salehoo]

One of the most common things you will notice when you sign up with ebay or yahoo auctions is that they do not take responsibility for anything listed on thier sites. If its illegal its not thier fault you listed it. These site are unfortunately the leading cause of Bootlegs and piracy problems online.

This is why the MPAA Or Motion Picture Association Of America formed and created the (TAP) initiative . This groups sole purpose is to take down auction house sellers that are selling bootleg movies. Some of the biggest bootleggers they took down on ebay were powersellers with huge feedback ratings. Today currently if you report a seller for selling movies with DTS on the Cover art Ebay will ban thier account for a week to a year within 48 hours of the complaint and they will pass the report to the MPAA.. The MPAA has been an ebay member and part of the ebays buddy program for over 8 years.


I once came across a site not too long ago claiming I could purchase newer release movies and classic disney flicks for $4 each. Brand new movies. All I had to do was purchase cases for them and use the supplied artwork. The supplied artwork had DTS labels on the top of the cover. They claimed they were authentic movies and were not bootleg or illegal blah blah blah.

So I almost bought into this. But I was suspicious about the reason I had to buy cases to sell movies that are originally manufacturered and inserted into cases by big machines and sealed by the very same machines.

I went to the MPAA's website and contacted thier anti piracy hotline.Took me less then 24 hours to get a reply. I asked them several questions about bootlegs including the DTS marking on the top cover. In thier descriptive answer. One of the lines stated clearly that to date there is no reason for any MPAA authorized manufacturer to label a disk with those markings on the top of the artwork sleeve. If the film was produced using DTS audio then there would be a small area on the back side on the bottom of the artwork for that logo.

That small area they are talking about is where they put the:

- Close captioning symbol
- Associated production companies logos
- Region encoding Symbol
- Movie rating Symbol

Im sorry if I offended you by shooting down your comment so fast but I am here to protect the members of salehoo from jumping into something that can get them into trouble with the law. Everyone has thier opinions about us and how our lists can help them , but most can say that as visitors of this forum, we will go out on a limb to make sure you dont make a mistake that can cost you if we know a better way.



Thanks.

[brad_sickness]

One of the Saving Private Ryan DVD's on DVDEmpire.com does have a DTS logo on it. I doubt DVD Empire would have been selling bootlegs...?

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Amazon seemed to be selling it at some point too...

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[jmoon87]

Brad sickness , That was the point i was trying to make i would swear the PRIVATE RYAN issue has it on the top i have had 4 copys of this dvd over the years and all have had it and the last one had a department store sticker on it maybe that was put on there for show -the only reason why i stressed the point was that i could not believe the prices i was getting for them usually around $20 which was alot for that movie and i remember describing the box to one buyer who had very high feedback -that is one thing about ebay other collectors will teach you alot and i am always checking the OOP stuff - i got my first taste of that years back when i started buying KISS MEETS THE PHANTOM OF THE PARK VHS for 9.99 at walmart and other places and selling them for $30-50 ............................I just thought maybe DREAMWORKS did a rare release of this dvd according to a GOOGLE search i did and if they did maybe other studios did as well ......JIMMY , what do you think about the dvds with the MADE IN MEXICO PRINT ?

[brad_sickness]

The made in mexico ones aren't fakes. I get free copies of them from Universal Studios/Rogue Pictures myself for advertising their movies on my website.