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E-bay us due for a class action lawsuit. They work for us. We are the sellers here. I have one of the top lawyers in the U.S. Would you like to join in this class action lawsuit? usedindustrial@aol.com

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I received an email from ebay informing me that I could list for free ...
So I listed one item (d8idn't sell) and next thing I know, I'm getting billed by eBay.
I emailed them about this but never received a reply.
It'll be a frosty day in H__l before I ever use them again for listing or buying!

There are better places than eBay.

What a joke, every time I log in, they say "check out the new fee structure, your fees will be lower based on your past sales." I run all the numbers and my fees will be jumping from 500 dollars a month to nearly 1000 dollars a month. I'd like them to tell me how my fees are lower when they are changing auction style final value fees (clothing shoes and accessories) from around 5.5 percent to 9 percent (with store subscription), 10 percent without one. Oh wait, they say cuz they will be saving me 25 cents per listing on the insertion part of it. Um, 25 cents isn't free when your doubling my 6 dollar final value fee to 12 dollars per item. I'll tell you what Ebay, you keep that 25 cents and give me back my 500 extra a month you are about to start taking from the final value end of it.

Do you think we don't notice? What a terrible way to treat the ones who made you a success.

Is it not bad enough that Ebay is doubling my fees that now they have to lie to me about it?

There will be a legitimate Ebay competitor within the next five years. Ebay treats sellers (the backbone of their business model) too terrible to continue monopolizing the industry. It will take time but it will eventually happen. People will jump ship at the very first inkling of a real option that draws enough traffic (as of now there is not one).....if a start up went three years of no fees period, traffic would show up and eventually Ebay sellers would move along with all the buyers. At that point the new company (Google perhaps) could start charging a reasonable percent (say 5 percent) and in turn Ebay would have to drop their fees to stay in the game. Ten percent is robbery. They do nothing but provide an avenue for a buyer and seller to meet. Guess what Ebay, someone else will eventually create a better online auction avenue and charge less. Your site is not all that. Oh, and I love how I pay you a grand a month in listing fees and every with my auctions looks like a bad magazine. We pay them to host our auctions and they in turn, put ads on our pages to send our potential buyers to other sites (they get paid per click).

Their latest ridiculous move. After a transaction is complete, if a buyer sends a message, yes, just a simple message indicating an issue that may need a reply, a case now automatically opens up. Now they don't even want us to communicate before cases open. Wow! How is this beneficial to either party in a transaction. At least he post office will benefit, I'd estimate returns will go up about 700,000 percent.

I have had nearly 1 million in sales to date and started a website to move all inventory to when they first took away our ability to leave negative feedback for buyers. Buyers are abusive, it is needed in this online exchange format. It is different than a best buy (commenter Josh who worked for Ebay). When a buyer uses his review against you as a form of ransom, there needs to be an option to present this info to other sellers. Also, when buyers don't pay, the non paying bidder strikes need to show up for us all to see so we know how to handle them. Ebay will never care, my website now draws 15000 views a month with zero inventory on it (just archived info of past sales date for informational reviews). Soon all my inventory will be transferred and I'll be saving 1k a month in fees and will never have to cringe at their newest way to screw us.. It took a long time, I'm excited to be done with GREEDBAY!

I used to work for eBay customer service. I find many of your comments to be funny. Why do they allow sellers the option to not ship internationally? Because many other countries do not have a quality post office like in the US. If the item is lost or stolen in transit, the seller is responsible. Why would eBay force a seller to take on such a risky transaction? To anyone who thinks MItch's story is for real, the truth is that eBay will warn you at least twice if violating eBay policies. They will put you in a Below Standard seller rating if your feedback or detailed seller ratings have been poor. They will not just give you a "life ban" with out warning. You would have to do something really blatantly dumb to get banned with out warning. For those of you angry about not being able to leave negative feedback to buyers...when was the last time that Best Buy had the ability to post online how good or bad of a buyer you were? I find it to be idiotic that people actually complain about not being able to leave a buyer negative feedback. If you sell on eBay, no matter how much or little, you are running a business. Like it or not, there will be angry customers, some in the right and some in the wrong. If you don't like it, don't sell. And certainly do not be an entrepreneur. eBay is a very profitable business and keeps growing. Don't bother trying to sue them to get $0.50 worth of insertion fees back, you'll go bankrupt well before they will!

I've been reading these messages and agree with most things. I got my sellers account banned for life even though I had 99.4% feedback on over 500 sales. The star rating system has failed me. I sell over 100 items a month and make it clear I post within 5 working days! But my star rating was low for shipping time! no discussion just banned for life!!

The sheer amount of money eBay had off me, they didn't even want to warn or chat to me!

99.4 % of buyers didn't have a problem yet eBay thought I was worthy of a life ban!!

No other online auction site gets as much traffic as eBay! I guess the reason why they can be picky! if they had other online auction sites to propley compete with they'd be different in there business approach, until then watch these spaces for more and more complaints.

I absolutely despise ebay! I only decided to sell through them because of the "50 Free Listings" special they have right now. I've sold one item & got totally screwed, I listed a brand new pair of Levis with tags, never worn in perfect condition & I used the "buy it now" option pricing them at $25.00 plus the buyer pays around $6.00 shipping..I paid $42.00 + Tax for these jeans & they did not fit & Ive lost my receipt & live an hour away from the mall i bought them from, so I cannot return them, so figured id try to sell them on eBay.. Somehow they revised my listing & totally screwed me out of making any profit off of these jeans & I am pissed! My item was switched to an auction item, starting at 99 cents & free shipping, they listed for 7 days, my original "Buy it Now" listing was scheduled to be listed until I cancelled & when I logged into my account a couple of days later a message immediately popped up that said "congratulations! you've been paid for an item!" with an option to print a shipping label, I was really confused & after looking through my eBay & Paypal account, I realized that my listing was revised,so I ended up having to sell my Brand new Levi Jeans that cost me almost $50 for $8.00 with ME paying shipping, which was $5.85, so I ended up making a whole $2.15 profit & I am pissed! My husband lost his job & we have kids, the only reason I was even able to buy the jeans was because I received a gift card for Christmas!! I am writing a complaint to everyone I can to report this!

I have had quite a few bad experiences with eBay and Paypal, both. The biggest complaint I have right now, though, is fees. I recently sold 3 items. The total value of the items was 329.00. The item cost was 285.00 Anyway, long story short. My total profit after E-bay and Paypal fees was 5.05. I, too, am done with E-bay.

I have been buying and selling with Ebay for nearly 6 years...and I have had enough. Sellers are restricted to either leave positive feedback or none at all for buyers, which leaves us no room to get around cranky customers. I do not sell for a living. I am a stay-at-home mom. My husband is Active Duty and we were recently stationed in Hawaii. My first experience trying to sell was a couple of Xbox games I had no use for. I sold the games, and because of shipping times from Hawaii (which was my fault for being completely unaware), it took 3 weeks for my buyer to get her item. I contacted her throughout the process, explained the situation, and apologized numerous times. Apparently, in the 3 week transit, the game was damaged (case broken, game slid around and got scratched), and she left negative feedback...not even ask me for a refund, just damaged my reputation. When I filed a request to have her change it, and that I would gladly refund all her money, she responded by making her original negative feedback even nastier. On top of the horrendous fees that are charged to sellers, I am done selling on Ebay. I will find other ways to sell my items, heck, I'll even just go for the old stand-by yard sale at this point.

eBay needs to be sued or punished for their unfair practice or discrimination against sellers. We all know eBay is the biggest online trade website in the world, and yet the most unfair place that cheat the sellers that work hard to make them money, because its the most popular place to trade, they feel like they can run this eBay kingdom how ever they want to. My anger towards their unreasonable block out/restrictions for sellers is more than I can describe. I feel exactly the same as many of the posts here. I have been with eBay for 5 years, had more than 200 positive feedback and was one of my income to feed my family with, and just because one negative feedback from a fake buyer or any giving day the person behind a computer is not feeling good or not liking the way I post my item they block me out forever and the reason they gave me was "we do not feel comfortable with the way you use ~ symbol next to your listing title".
Can someone tell me what that even means ?? The symbol on my keyboard was created for use, how can they tell me they don't feel comfortable with me using the ~ symbol.
Anyways I can go on and on about how I want eBay go to hell, but that will not solve any problems, i agree with many post here stated we need to stick together as a whole, I saw some post about we should all agree on taking our business somewhere else. Does anyone have a place we can go ? Or does anyone have the ability to build a website like eBay where we won't be treat unfairly ? Or do anyone else would like to sue eBay for all their wrong doing and the over charging ? Please write your input, eBay needs to be stopped for their wrong doing and we need to run that evil empire dry so they will eventually going out of business, like they did to us.

Been a power seller for 10 years with a perfect feedback score, recently sold a $300 item, buyer claimed it was damaged. I paid for shipping insurance but Ebay / paypal gave him his money back and I got back a different item all stripped and broken..Don't use eBay..sell locally on Craigslist.

Amazon is the worst for selling anything besides books. Selling anything used is terrible. I consistently get people saying that the product isn't as new as they wanted it to be when i put its a 4 year old coffee maker that retails for 300 dollars and I'm selling it for 50 bucks because its used and want me t take 30 dollars off the price and threats with negative feed back. This happens all the time people get the product demand money back equal to what it would cost to ship the product back with threats of negative ratings. Amazon was no help because even tho i had pictures of when I sent it the buyer won't supply photos.

eBay is crap. end of story. Why do I need a landline to verify my account? Who has a landline these days? Why do buyers always get the last say...and why does ebay support buyers 99% of the time...even when the buyer is clearly in the wrong? Also, by the time Paypal and eBay take their fees out, I'm better off advertising in the local newspaper classifieds!. I've been on and off eBay for 7yrs and have had nothing but trouble. if I send a fragile item I will overwrap it to prevent breakage and will label it as fragile...if Australia post stuffs up and the item gets chipped or broken, how is that MY fault and why do I get negative feedback even when I have refunded the money? eBay needs a bullet. end of story.

Oh yeah....so...I am also not the only one trying to find a good replacement for eBay.
I have similar problems with ebay myself. It is really pathetic what eBay does. Seller protection? NONE. Always favouring buyers. In a way understandable but if the buyer did everything wrong possible so why has the seller to bleed for it?

Long story short:
-Buyer buys item. Supposedly arrived damaged. Boxed damaged, too
-Me, trying to be an awesome seller...."ok. send it back for refund or exchange"
-Buyer wants refund
-I send return lable via email and ask him to put it back in the box and to make sure it is wrapped up really good to avoid further damages.
-Buyer threw box away!!! so for me not possible to claim the damage at ups
-Buyer sends back item in OVERSIZED box and hardly any filling material in it.
-Item flies around in box during shipping and gets more damaged.
-I refuse full refund or reduced refund for repair (only repairing the damage of the return shipping.
-Buyer contacts eBay, gets refund and that's it.

You don't get an explanation WHY eBay decided this case in this way....nothing!!!!
Just that they refunded the buyer and getting their money from your Paypal account.
You just have to swallow their decision.

To me it really seems like NOBODY at eBay is even looking at a case. I am getting the idea that this is automated.

eBay is waste of space, and good space at that, they have priced themselves out of the market place, or that is when someone sets up a site that really gives them some competition, and if ebid is here to stay they really need to step up to the mark, and advertise very heavily, just not enough traffic going there, mass advertising campaign is needed, come on ebid get it sorted, I've stuck with you all these years but never actually sold anything as yet.

We have been selling Bird Toys and Bird Toy Parts for over 2 years on ebay. Before that, we sold Collectibles many years ago. Broke our backs to be Top Sellers. That took a year. We kept 100% feedback, and high DSR's. Since we started selling, again, eBay has implemented a new policy every Summer. They keep finding ways to make more money, and screw the sellers. The first Summer they increased the Final Value Fees. The second Summer they decided to punish ALL Sellers for the ones who hid their profits in their shipping fees by including the Shipping Fees in the Final Value Fees. That meant that eBay, as well as Paypal got a cut of the shipping costs.....each item's shipping cost...not the combined. And if a buyer pays before we can send them a combined shipping invoice, eBay has already taken their share...no refund to us, like we would for the buyer. How could they get away with taking a cut of something that doesn't even belong to them? The shipping cost has nothing to do with ebay. Isn't that illegal?

The following summer, eBay found another way to make more money and screw the seller, again. They said we had to have a 1-day turn around time, and a 14-day return policy, or they would take away our 20% discount for being Top Sellers. That 20% was keeping our heads above water. They said we could keep our Top Seller Status, but a few months later, changed their minds, and took that away, too. We can't have a return policy. We sell bird toys and treats, which can spread disease from one to another. That would be like allowing someone to send back a piece of meat they chewed, and we would have to sell it to someone who wouldn't mind regurgitated food, and might get sick or even die from it. We called them, and told them this. They don't care.

Anyway....we had 100% feedback, until this month. A seller gave us negative feedback, because they claimed they never got their shipment. The Tracking Number said the shipment was delivered. They would not respond to our emails. We called eBay, and told them the situation. They would not take down the negative feedback (2). Just this morning, we got 2 more negative feedback. The buyer did not get in touch with us, before doing this, again!!! They purchased 40 yards of Rexlace, and complained that they didn't get the whole spool, which is 300 yards. They, also, claimed that we did not send out their shipment on the specified date. Reason for this was, we kept asking them which colors they wanted, since we have many, many. We allow 8 different colors for 40 yards. We ended up sending them OUR selections 4 days after they ordered, because we hate to hold onto an order. We usually send out an order the next day. We always try to accommodate buyers by sending them what THEY want, not what we THINK they would like. This is the first time this has blown up in our faces. This buyer only has 14 next to their name. ebay always sides with the buyer. We won't even call ebay, because they'll say, "It's not in our policy to take down a negative feedback because of that reason." The same with the delivery system. It's not their "policy" to take down negative feedback, because the post office screwed up.

We have a website, but the majority that purchase from us on ebay won't buy there. ebay is safe to them. We have had only 65 orders for the year on the website: www.helpinghahns2.com. We can't bite our noses off to spite our face. We need to USE ebay. We're on Facebook, too. Having a page on Facebook does not guarantee more sales.

My husband thinks we are making a few cents on eBay. He is going to figure everything out, today. ebay does not break down the monthly statement. Do you really think they want you to know how you are breaking your butt for them?!!

Wish there was an alternative. There are many other markets, but not enough traffic. We will look for forums to post on, and do whatever possible to get people to our site.

Also, one huge problem.....International Sales. The shipping is ridiculous! Many buyers buy 1 item for $2.50, and the shipping is $7.95. What a hit we take for that, because eBay gets 11% of both. No profit there!!! We are down to the United Kingdom, Australia, and South America. The others are just too much to ship. We make exceptions when other countries contact us. We made many friends in other countries, so we will not just sell to the U.S.

Help!

Well, I have been selling actively for several years. I have a 100% feedback rating and now I receive a message from eBay stating I was permanently banned from selling due to under performance. No details and no right to appeal. I called and they wouldn't even speak to me about it. They said I had no options. I am sick.

I have read most of the comments posted here and I too have been screwed by eBay and fraudulent buyer. Guy bought snow plow controller in excellent shape,he received it said I misrepresented the item in my description he said the buttons were chewed off and the cord was broken. eBay looked at the pictures in the listing told me I was doing a good job the pictures showed great detail and then told they were refunding his money and I have to reimburse them. Waiting to see the controller when I get it back. I'm done with eBay after 9 years of excellent feedback.

I am a newbie and have found the various comments on eBay and PayPal fruitful.
I like the comment on eBay's selling limit. Why should eBay set monthly selling limits, particularly to newbie? If they can prepare listings fast and able to sell, eBay should increase their limits automatically. eBay gets their usual fees ! The more they can sell, the more fees eBay receives. So why not increase their selling limits?

Regards and have an outstanding day.

Jim

Thank you for the above comments... thought we were the only ones who this happened to. We where only new to eBay and 5 items where due to finish over the next 4 days. Saturday night at 6.08pm (2 minutes before our first auction finish) eBay suspended our account indefinitely and won't tell us why. Cancelled all bids and advised that our account is still active to only buy goods and this decision can be appealed. Monday morning we received an email saying we can't appeal this decision is final and there is no-one to tell us what we did wrong. All items with over 170 bids were ended and we can't do anything about it. Can anyone suggest where to now? What are the other options that we have? Your help would be much appreciated.

Hello everyone, I have just read and read story after story, I am shocked, stunned to read such awful things all tied to eBay.
I have been sitting at home for the past three days trying to think of a way to get me out of this mess that I have found myself in due to eBay suspending my account and leaving me high and dry. I don't want to moan but eBay has made it impossible for me to even fix my account.
I just want someone to come up with a plan to beat eBay and to definitely count me in. What a horrible way to treat people especially as it is us, the sellers, that generate their fortune.

I hate Ebay! They are fucking thieves! They want you to pay 9% then Paypal takes 2% its just crazy because on top of that you have to pay for shipping . So in the end of it you really don't make any profit at all-_- they blocked me from selling on eBay while I had 100% feedback and they had canceled it because a customer said that they had received the wrong item but really the person didn't read the description. After they suspended my account they have audacity to tel me to pay my eBay fees.All I could say was that i wanted to kill ebay!!! EBay makes too much money and they should be shut down point blank.

I purchased nice products on eBay and I never paid a fee, just shipping charges but I wanted to sell my computer accessories there and here is the problem, who the heck can afford to do it?

Paypal has it's fees and eBay has it's fees and by the time the costs are added in for the shipping and placing the product up for sale I would go broke. I did my own calculations and I just don't know how sellers stay in business. I have been reading tons of horror stories from sellers and they are so afraid of being thrown off the site or their Paypal accounts locked just for a tiny mistake.

I don't want to be part of eBay trashing my name because of dishonest buyers. I heard about the people who say they didn't receive their product when in fact it was shown to be delivered to their door or say something was broken and wanted their money back and it was tested and worked fine. From what I have been reading, eBay sides with the buyers all the time and the seller keeps taking the hit.

I see this as a terrible way to treat sellers since there wouldn't be buyers if nobody listed anything. As far as opening my own site, it would be nice but remember people need to hear about it and then there are tons of listings and inventory and then again the fees for credit card transactions along with Paypal fees. Might be worth it by using Godaddy because they offer some really neat plans at a cheap price. Webs.com offers a cheap price with no ads on their basic level above free. I have a lot of thinking to do.

Has anyone considered selling their products on simplesite.com or even shopify.com? I have visited both sites and they seem to maybe an alternative to to eBay. I used to sell on on eBay but have left and refuse to ever return. I also did sell on ioffer.com and got into sometrouble because of another seller who complained against me for underselling him on the same product so ioffer banned me for a month. Rather than return I am not going back there either. I have decided that I'm going use my local classifieds for now till I find some place else to sell.