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8 Jan 09 01:35:33 am
Admire your effort, but seriously...does anyone really need another wholesale list?

If you want to buy wholesale, here is what you do.

1. Contact the head office of the company that manufacturers the
product you want to sell.

2. If you have a truck load of cash and a storage facility, talk to
them about becoming a wholesaler for their products, other wise
politely inquire as to who their licensed wholesalers are.

3. Contact your nearest licensed wholesaler and negotiate a
volume price purchase.

See, it's not rocket science, you don't need 37 wholesale lists or anything else apart from a phone, a voice and some cash to buy at wholesale volume!

If you want to buy one item, forget what is written above and go back to sleep!


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Im not sure why you posted this on my post but Yes I have dealt with local suppliers and purchased pallets of merchandise. There are liquidation stores all over the place sometimes you need to ask the manager if he sells pallets BUT at the same time, most of these pallets are all misc. I can buy a pallet with hundreds of things in it, yet I can only see the top, the rest is full of junk most of the time. I have tried that route.

You will be surprised that there are MANY people selling on ebay buying from ebay and Link hidden: Login to view shows you the wholesale items organized.

You can look and see what they are selling which is sometimes better than going to a supplier's warehouse and trying to pick a pallet when you can only see the top.

Trust me, been there done that, but I can tell you someone just bought a huge lot of pdas and instantly made a 3,000 profit and they bought it through ebay.

Maybe you have found a great supplier who lets you see exactly what you are getting, thats great. Most of the time you do not know what you are getting.


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8 Jan 09 03:22:05 am
I posted my original comment here because I was under the impression by the name, and a quick glimpse of the site that you were listing wholesalers, as do countless other thousands.

However, now reading your comment it seems that your site is not related to wholesale at all, and what you are talking about here is actually liquidated stock, not wholesale stock in the true sense of the word, as you are promoting via your name and site, and there is a big difference...as you should know if you do have experience in the field.

Wholesale should never be used when dealing with second hand, or liquidated stock. The term Wholesale used in the strictest sense relates to NEW items.

Items that have already been released into a retail market are commonly referred to as second hand or if unused liquidated, no matter in what volume they are released in.

These products have already been through the wholesale process, it's how they were released into the retail market in the first place, and they are no longer wholesale products.

The biggest problem newbies face when coming into the market place is the constant flow of misleading purchasing information.

Salehoo, and every other site and forum is full of suppliers that call themselves wholesalers when they are nothing more than drop shippers, or even worse, simple brokers!

If you are going to provide a service to customers, I suggest that you provide them with accurate information, and calling liquidated stock wholesale stock is complete garbage.

Liquidated stock is just that, liquidated stock......and it has been liquidated for a reason, and that has absolutely nothing to do with wholesale!


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8 Jan 09 06:25:54 am
Im sorry but do you mean that you buy truckloads of pallets and That would be considered wholesale?

There are Several middle men that exchange products before you buy a box full of 'liquidated' merchandise.

Anything that is sold in bulk that produces profit, to me, is considered wholesale.


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8 Jan 09 06:45:31 am
By the way, Ive been in this business for many years, I may even be able to help others. Im new to the forum but not new to the industry.


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8 Jan 09 07:12:10 am
Personally i find that website garbage.Who has 700,000.00 dollars for cosmetics!!! It seems to be copied material from other websites.Sorry but thats my take on the website.

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8 Jan 09 07:16:09 am
Its not a wholesale website! it a freeking liquidation closeout website.

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8 Jan 09 07:34:41 am
I think someone needs to define wholesale. Are people making $$ off of those listings? Yes. Are they being sold under retail value? Yes.

Maybe you have not researched what is selling to determine if anything on that site can make a profit. I was assuming everyone here was interested in making money.


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8 Jan 09 07:41:28 am
The site is fine,just the name.I would call it a liquidation directory or closeout surplus.

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8 Jan 09 07:43:31 am
Im sorry but do you mean that you buy truckloads of pallets and That would be considered wholesale?

There are Several middle men that exchange products before you buy a box full of 'liquidated' merchandise.

Anything that is sold in bulk that produces profit, to me, is considered wholesale.


What I am actually trying to say is that just because a product is sold in bulk, does not make it a wholesale product.

As you correctly point out, with 'liquidated' stock there can be many middlemen involved before the end user purchases a load, if they are not buying direct from a liquidator who has the tender to distribute that stock direct from the supplier.

When dealing in 'liquidated' stock, it's important to deal with the tender holder, or every one else is cherry picking the load and then adding profit to what is left as it goes down the chain.

The end result, the buyer ends up with over priced rubbish!

Unfortunately your idea of a what a wholesale product is reflects the big problem I see in here all the time, and that is the common miss use of the term 'wholesale'

We have suppliers here advertising a single item at wholesale price, which is of course rubbish.

The word 'wholesale' indicates that the product is new, and is available in bulk at a wholesale price (bulk purchase). There is only two places you can buy wholesale, and that is from a wholesaler, or from the manufacturer who is selling direct at wholesale price!

You can of course purchase many items in bulk, 'liquidated' stock being one example, but just because you are buying a product in bulk does not make it a wholesale purchase.

There are four links in a regular market chain,

1. Manufacturer
2. Wholesaler
3. Retailer
4. End User

Liquidated stock can come from any of those four links, however the most common link is number 4. A retail outlet liquidating unwanted stock which can contain items consisting of customer returns, slow moving stock, last seasons goods, over stocks, salvage (non-operational), and a multitude of other examples.

Of course they could be in liquidation due to closure as well.

All of these types of goods come under the banner of 'liquidated stock'

Wholesale products can come from only two links in the chain, the manufacturer themselves selling as the wholesaler direct to the end user, or the wholesaler themselves.

I've worked in marketing for many years, and perhaps I get perdantic about the miss use of marketing terms, and don't get me wrong, I understand the importance of catch phrasing as a marketing tool, however it is just getting completely out of control now.

Drop shippers calling themselves wholesalers, brokers calling themselves wholesalers and liquidators calling themselves wholesalers. What it does is cause massive confusion with new people trying to get into online sales because they end up not being able to tell the difference between sourcing avenues.

Even so called wholesale lists, Salehoo as we shall use as an example here, are getting choked to death by the term wholesale being used by every supplier in the database.

If this kind of thing is not acted upon, suppliers not listed in their correct categories, and the term wholesale used as some form of generic phrasing, then the term wholesale is going to mean absolutely nothing anymore!

When someone is looking for a wholesaler, they will be getting pointed to god knows what sort of supplier, more than likely a broker who has bought an item from someone, who bought it from someone, who bought it from someone, who bought it from someone......you may be able to see where this is going.

Manufacturer
Wholesaler
Retailer
Liquidator

All these terms describe links in a market chain, and they are designed to indicate what is what to make it simple to do business.

Ok, that's my rant for the day, but seriously, the lines are already blured to the point where most have no idea what supplier supplies what. Can we get back to using the correct market terms to describe products and services accurately, so as we all know what the product is, and where the product is from.

Manufacturer (the maker)
Wholesaler (wholesale)
Retailer (retail)
Liquidator (liquidated stock)

As for being of help to other members, I sincerely hope that you can be. There are plenty here that need as much help as can be found, and we all benefit from each others help in this forum, however we also look out for each other, and when someone sees something that is miss-leading, then you can expect them to take you to task over it!

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8 Jan 09 07:44:07 am
yeah i consider low prices wholesale myself,when i think of cost.

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The reason those items are listed as wholesale is because they are connected to ebay and that is what ebay itself calls it.

I realize that there is a lot of confusion on the internet about wholesale because there are websites ranking number one for the term wholesale on google and their prices will not in any way shape or form make a profit. They listed their website because they claimed to have 'low prices' and that is about it just low prices.

I think that is why we have all joined this forum and I am not trying in any way to confuse anyone. The products on that site are connected to ebay. It is just an easier way to see the 'wholesale lots' on ebay.

Now ofcourse if you found a Manufacturer who sells individual pallets then that is great but most of the time this inventory that is left over for wholesalers is sold in huge truckloads. Then that person selling the truckload of pallets individually calls it liquidation.

If you have the money to pay for a truckload of products from a manufacturer then that would be considered true wholesale. I have gotten burned on that too because the deal is they do not tell you what you will get. Sometime they will say this has more clothes than toys or it is a seasonal load.

This brings us to the products being sold 'wholesale' on ebay. Whether the sellers have purchased a truckload or they only bought an individual pallet, they are trying to MOVE that inventory. It takes up a huge amount of space to store and yes you can m ake a profit off of those listings. They really are not always listed because they think they can make a huge profit. I have done it myself. I was like get all of this 'stuff' out of my garage, I will give it away if I have to :)


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Sorry rileyb, but you still don't seem to understand the difference between wholesale and liquidation, and what you are writing is quite simply incorrect!

To quote you

'If you have the money to pay for a truckload of products from a manufacturer then that would be considered true wholesale. I have gotten burned on that too because the deal is they do not tell you what you will get. Sometime they will say this has more clothes than toys or it is a seasonal load.'

You are not talking about wholesale products, you are talking about liquidated products.

When any manufacturer sells merchandise to a wholesaler, it is manifested and that manifest should coinside with what the wholesaler ordered or it will be rectified.

They don't just throw anything in a bloody truck and send it off, if they did they would not be in the manufacturing business for very long!

Again I say it, but you are talking about buying a truckload of liquidated stock, and a non-manifested load at that.

Manufacturers do not sell these loads, they sell new products that they have made themselves!

Liquidators are selling liquidated stock, they are not manufacturers, they are liquidators.

Honestly, you say you have experience in this industry, yet what you write indictes to me a complete lack of knowledge, and a total miss-understanding.

I have also traded in liquidated stock, as part of a group, as well as on my own, and in fact I am currently a wholesaler of food products for two different companies through my own business.

I understand the difference very well, and I thought what I had previously written may have cleared up any miss conception you had , but I'm just not confident about your ability to give members accurate information based on what you are saying.


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Using your site I found 500 Obama calendars for the cheap price of only $3,000.

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But seriously I agree with the other posters here. This is more of a website for liquidated merchandise. Liquidated merchandise and wholesale merchandise are not the same thing.

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Will you please refer me to a site with wholesale merchandise and prices so I can see what you are talking about?


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Please refer me to a site with what you consider true wholesale


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Please refer me to a site with what you consider true wholesale


Unfortunately it's not that straight forward, and it's another mistake a lot of new members make when searching for wholesale prices.

To get wholesale prices you need to buy in volume, and a wholesaler will not be able to give you a set price until they know the volume to which you are going to buy.

Lots of people just expect to find a wholesale price advertised, and this is what leads to a lot of confusion.

Example;

I'm a wholesaler for two food products, now I purchase direct from the producer of those products, and to get the best possible price I am forced to purchase in large amounts and then store the stock.

I then sell to retailers, in this case vets. Now if I get an order for one bag from a customer, he is only going to get a small discount off full retail price to allow him a small margin, however if he orders a full carton, being 24, he is going to get a much better price than just buying 1. That is where he starts getting a volume wholesale price.

The more of the stock they buy, the better wholesale price I can give them because if my market is in heavy demand, that gives me leverage to negotiate a better price from the supplier because I am ordering even more stock.

Of course if I am ordering more stock it means that I am making more sales, if I am making more sales it's because the vets are selling moor product, and if that is happening then the supplier is making more money because he is making more product for sale, and to make more product leads to employing more people ion the manufacturing process.

That's how an economy works, high demand for a product in the retail sector feeds back down the line to employment at the very start of of it, and possibly at various stages along it.

So why doesn't the vets just buy the product direct from the supplier, because they can't afford to buy the volume required and then store it to make it viable,because then they would not be able to afford and store other products. That leads to less choice for the end consumer, and that means less sales for the vet overall.

I am the wholesaler, the supplier is the manufacturer of the product and the vet is the retailer of the product, they are the ones where the public go to purchase because they only want to buy one or two packs.

Now lets say that one of the vets was going out of business and he had all this different stock. An option would include liquidating that stock, and everything else of value within the business.

That might mean selling off items in bulk at a heavily discounted price to ensure a quick sale and recoup some capital, but that's liquidating stock, not wholesaling stock.

The products you are talking about are being sold by liquidators, and liquidators buy liquidated stock buy the truckload from suppliers. As I previously posted, suppliers can be liquidating all sorts of stock and for all sorts of reasons.

If you order a truckload of liquidated stock, the chances are that it will be un-manifested because it is usually coming direct from the supplier, not the liquidator.

Suppliers aren't interested in manifesting loads because they have tenders with liquidators to take everything, no picking and choosing.

So, when you order a truckload of liquidated stock from a liquidation company you are going to get the best possible price per unit, but in amongst those units could be a lot of useless garbage that the supplier has dumped in there.

Liquidated stock comes for all over the place, but most comes from big department chains. Once it gets to the liquidator they will break the load down into smaller lots, that is of course if you haven't ordered a truckload and you are ordering a pallet or two.

The smaller the load, the higher the price per item you will pay, but now the load has been sorted you get the opportunity to purchase a manifested load.

You see wholesale and liquidation are both sold in bulk, but they are not the same thing.

If you want to buy wholesale, you have to buy from a wholesaler, or a manufacturer who sells direct, in essence taking the place of the wholesaler. If you want to buy liquidated stock, then you need to go to a liquidator.

Liquidated stock is usually cheaper than the original wholesale price that the product actually sold for. It is now cheaper because it is surplus to the owners requirements, they no longer want it sitting taking up space on shelf for sale, they are wanting to convert that product back into working capital.

I'm going to sum it up like this;

Buying in bulk from a wholesaler will give you products of equal quality, and equal value so you are able to set a standard retail price for each and every one without any problems.

Buying in bulk from a liquidator is going to give you products that radically differ in quality and value because of the nature of liquidated stock, meaning that you will have to value each item individually for resale depending on the condition of each product.


I think the point you are trying to make is that you can make profit on liquidated stock, and you're absolutely right. There are pitfalls to watch out for when dealing in this stock, but if you know where to step then there is profit there if you are in for the long run.


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I've just had a look at some of those items on eBay and one particular seller is massively trying to circumvent eBay fees. (I reported the listings). I'm guessing the original poster is promoting these listings as they would provide great affiliate commissions if clicked through from his links. Nothing wrong with that if it works for him.


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Having now spent some time on the site mentioned, I think it's great! I've often tried searching eBay for wholesale lots and had to spend too much time sifting through them. This makes it really easy and it's all set out in categories. Arguing about what constitutes wholesale is really just an exercise in semantics. Wholesale can be defined as the business of selling goods or services to third parties who in turn sell them to their own end customers either directly or after further processing. So anything sold in bulk for the purpose of onselling could be defined as wholesale. The keyword suggestion tool on the site is fantastic for doing research and I for one thank the original poster for the information. I'm going to be giving that tool a thorough flogging as it's one of the better ones I've come across and I was unaware of it heretofore. Thanks rileyb


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Having now spent some time on the site mentioned, I think it's great! I've often tried searching eBay for wholesale lots and had to spend too much time sifting through them. This makes it really easy and it's all set out in categories. Arguing about what constitutes wholesale is really just an exercise in semantics. Wholesale can be defined as the business of selling goods or services to third parties who in turn sell them to their own end customers either directly or after further processing. So anything sold in bulk for the purpose of onselling could be defined as wholesale. The keyword suggestion tool on the site is fantastic for doing research and I for one thank the original poster for the information. I'm going to be giving that tool a thorough flogging as it's one of the better ones I've come across and I was unaware of it heretofore. Thanks rileyb


Arguing about what constitutes wholesale needs to be done to clarify the difference between purchasing options for those that don't have the experience, and are searching for sources.

Most new members to Salehoo are new to online selling, hell they're new to business altogether, and when they get here they are confronted with the term WHOLESALE being used all over the place.

It's fine to adopt the attitude that because you understand the difference between liquidated stock, that the use of the term wholesale is appropriate to describe a bulk shipment, but for someone who does not understand the difference between buying stock bulk from a wholesaler, and a liquidator, the situation can become very confusing.

I have no problems with the site, if you get good value out of it then good luck to you and anyone else that can get the same benefit.

While suppliers are constantly using the word wholesale to promote their goods, whether they are wholesalers or not, it makes it hard for new members to know what supplier is genuine, and what supplier is just using the term as a marketing phrase!

Why in the hell does the term wholesale have to be used, why not just settle for what it is, bulk, otherwise we may as well just drop the term liquidator all together and call them all wholesalers as well simply because they all sell in bulk.....yeah, I can really see that working!


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Poor Fudjj, LoL. I got what you were trying to say the first time. I'm out of breath after reading all of this and I REALLY get it now. :)

I get the problem with liquidated stock that I'm gonna have a huge problem with 'cherry pivked' loads. Aside from ppwdg I'm looking for a potential second or third source. According to everything I'm reading, to avoid this, I have to either buy a truck load from a retailer that'll sell to me or a lot of trial and error?

I'm getting a little ahead of myself, fore I have yet to purchase my first pallet. However, I just want to get all my ducks in a row. :)

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9 Jan 09 03:53:10 am
I really doubt that newbies coming into this forum give a toss about whether a load of goods is Wholesale, Bulk, Liquidation or a clearout from Farmer Browns' barn, just so long as they can find goods at a price at which they can make a profit.


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lammenscodirect.com
midwestern just a few of the companies on that website.
you can either go to that website and see part of what they sell or you can go directly to them and see all what they sell.I rather see all they offer.

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Poor Fudjj, LoL. I got what you were trying to say the first time. I'm out of breath after reading all of this and I REALLY get it now. :)

I get the problem with liquidated stock that I'm gonna have a huge problem with 'cherry pivked' loads. Aside from ppwdg I'm looking for a potential second or third source. According to everything I'm reading, to avoid this, I have to either buy a truck load from a retailer that'll sell to me or a lot of trial and error?

I'm getting a little ahead of myself, fore I have yet to purchase my first pallet. However, I just want to get all my ducks in a row. :)


Thanks Tildorf, I think I'm going to need a good holiday after this.

If you get into liquidation, get into it as a long term venture. Loads in this industry will vary, even if you are buying the same load from the same supplier, the chances are really high that each load will return a different outcome.

Some loads can make good margin, some will make small and of course if you are buying in smaller loads, you can take a hit.

I always suggest to people interested in liquidation take a look at viatrading.com. You can order buy the truckload or buy the carton with most of their stock, and they are well respected in the industry for not cherry picking loads.

They also give you the option of buying clean loads, of course the price is slightly higher, but if you're new to the liquidation game it can be a good way to start.

Just like anything, buying in volume will get you the best price, and increase the margin for profit, buying smaller loads can hurt you, especially if you have the farm riding on them.

Having said that, big loads can also hurt you, but there is more chance to recover when you have the volume to play with.

The best tip, make sure you are dealing with the tender holder, that is the liquidator that has the tender to buy the merchandise from the retailer. There are lots of brokers in this industry, buyers that will buy x amount of pallets from a tender holding liquidator, then break those pallets down, cherry pick the best gear for their own sales, then repackage and market themselves as a liquidator.

Of course they are a liquidator because they are selling liquidated stock, but you are going to be paying their profit, and risk loosing the best products buy sourcing through these brokers.

Liquidation.com is full of these types of situations. People might just buy a pallet, they strip it of everything of real value, then package the pallet into smaller carton lots to resell.

Buyers bid on the carton lots because they can't afford to buy pallets, and what they end up with is nothing but the dregs of the original load.


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9 Jan 09 04:16:14 am
The only reason this whole thing became confusing is because you (fudjj) jumped in and tried to make out the original post was something it wasn't. It's not a wholesale list, nor does it pretend to be. It's not trying to get mugs to part with their money for a useless site with so called wholesalers. It's merely an organised method of seeking out bulk or wholesale deals on ebay. It purports to be nothing more, nothing less. If the website owners use it to pull in affiliate commissions from ebay, then all power to them - they're providing a useful service to others in the process. More useful in my opinion than some sites I've paid money for (not mentioning any in particular) which list a lot of outdated providers, middlemen, and even retailers. Sure some of the bulk purchases listed are way beyond the budget of newbies, but there are also lots of affordable bulk loads listed. It's been fun browsing the site.


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9 Jan 09 04:20:05 am
u can just go directly to the companies on that website and see all they have to offer midwestern lammenscodirect ect

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I really doubt that newbies coming into this forum give a toss about whether a load of goods is Wholesale, Bulk, Liquidation or a clearout from Farmer Browns' barn, just so long as they can find goods at a price at which they can make a profit.


It's easy to see that you don't get smashed with PMs asking you advice on what is what because of all the confusion, so you just feel free to add to the confusion while some of us are actually trying help people.

As for you inferring that I'm attacking the site for something that it isn't, what a load of crap!

I made one reference to the site being a wholesale list in my very first post, then in my second post in reply to the other members post, I stated my error, and then responded to what was written in that post by the member.

Each post I have made on the subject from then on as been in answer to questions posted by the other member, they have not been related to the damn site.

Like I said, if someone can get benefit from anything around here I think it's a good thing.

You have a much right to anyone to have an opinion, and to post it for all to see, but how about basing it on fact, not on some twisted reality.

Give me a break, and while your doing that go take your self serving attitude and shove it cause I've had a gut full of IDIOTS, and their bullshit!


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Hi everyone im new to salehoo can you tell me where to get wii consoles and play stations and apple 3g phone and ipods?
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Sure Singapore, WHOLESALE suppliers everywhere these days : )


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9 Jan 09 05:14:01 am
Fudjj, now that's just mean-spirited. You're not the only person on this forum with an opinion you know and I'm entitled to air mine without being rudely called an idiot and told to 'shove it'. Take a chill pill mate!


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Crap meter is full at the moment, and I should say sorry, but someone accuses me of something I haven't done, that tends to tip me over the edge.

I am not commenting on the site in any way shape or form, apart from the first post where I admitted my error, everything else written by me in this thread has been in relation to what has been written in posts, not about the site as you inferred.


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9 Jan 09 06:03:24 am
@fudjj

Newbie here (first time thread reader and first time poster all within my first few hour of membership) and I just wanted to thank you for giving out an excellent free lesson on 'Intro to retail sales cycle 101.'

Regardless of what the source of the topic was, the content and quality of your posts in this thread has set me off with high hopes that my purchase of a Salehoo membership was not in vain.

I've taken your posts in this thread, and compiled it into MS Word for my own personal reference should I ever need a quick trip down my early days in economic class where your points were hammered into 8th grade minds by a brilliant teacher. To bad they don't teach this stuff as prevalent as they used to back in the 80's.

I'll be looking forward to more of your insights whenever i can.

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9 Jan 09 06:20:13 am
anyone know where i can get apple ipods and wii game consoles for cheap? like around 100.00 so i can sell on ebay?

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9 Jan 09 06:25:51 am
well the people have spoken as usual fudjj is correct.I agreed with him 100% throughout.now anyone know where the game consoles are for 100.00 i want wii consoles dropshipped 1 at a time.if i can get them for 100.00 i think i can sell them on ebay for 200.00 sounds great.

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Appreciate it guys.

What can I say, some people will get it, and no matter what I write, some will read what they want and draw their own conclusions, regardless of the facts.

Glad you got something out of it zargonoth, makes the effort worth while if it helps out, even though frustrating at times...lol

I think you'll find the forum quite informative, plenty will share their opinion.....not always so robustly as I have this time perhaps, but anytime you have a question just drop a line, and some member feedback shouldn't be too far away.


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Appreciate it guys.

What can I say, some people will get it, and no matter what I write, some will read what they want and draw their own conclusions, regardless of the facts.

Glad you got something out of it zargonoth, makes the effort worth while if it helps out, even though frustrating at times...lol

I think you'll find the forum quite informative, plenty will share their opinion.....not always so robustly as I have this time perhaps, but anytime you have a question just drop a line, and some member feedback shouldn't be too far away.


Dude!
Let me tell you something, I am new to this, but I want to succeed and as I've read every post you've made, everything you've said makes things much clearer for me, I was very confused as to what was what. Though some may think others dont care what is called as long as we are making money, I do. I have Big money to spend, the old american dream, I'm going to take all of my retirement money and buy, once I find a Niche. So to those of you that speak, please! Only speak for yourself, you are not the voice of the masses. You are the voice of one. I mean no disrespect to anyone with this statement, I am simply trying to get some to understand that not all of us are as "seasoned" in this business and the mindset of "call it cheeseburgers in bacon grease, we dont care! as long as..." is certainly not how everyone sees things. Thanks!
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22 Aug 12 05:49:17 am
Cheers newdals, we know there are plenty out there trying to learn, just like you, and that's exactly what we're here for :)


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