Women Clothing

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20 Feb 14 02:31:37 pm
looking to purchase women clothing such as leggings, sun dresses, maxi dresses, yoga paints, sport bras, rain apparels, hats, sandals, shoes, jackets, dresses.....

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Please refer to my response to your initial post


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I may be able to help with some information Shaunie. Please PM.


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carattop wrote:I may be able to help with some information Shaunie. Please PM.


I too would like assistance regarding wholesalers of women apparel, especially those with affordable bodycon dresses. Please help.

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11 Mar 14 09:10:46 pm
Hello Ardean and welcome to the forum

While we encourage members to network and share ideas with each other, you must be aware that when considering dealing with suppliers out side of our directory, they have not been verified buy us, and as such, can not be guaranteed by us as completely safe to deal with. In these situations, due diligence is the responsibility of yourself.

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11 Mar 14 10:16:52 pm
@Marc - Let us please out specifically while some suppliers like myself do not qualify too to be included in the directory. My profile was verified by Salehoo but, it was shot down because the website /domain name was less than 2 years old. While it is important to protect the interest of salehoo members, it is also equally important that members who are seeking suppliers understand the reason behind why a profile does not get approved to be included in Supplier Directory. Indeed, it is always important to perform due diligence be it with Salehoo or outside.

Would you mind helping the community and myself included understand the validation process performed for inclusion in supplier directory. If a deal goes bad with a supplier currently listed in the salehoo directory, is there some sort of indemnity/protection to the buyer?


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11 Mar 14 11:22:56 pm
Hello Bharath,

Let me start by clarifying your point about your profile being verified. We do not verify a profile of anyone simply subscribing to SaleHoo, anyone can subscribe to SaleHoo as a member. We verify supplier applications to either reject or approve them to be added to the directory.

As you highlight, your application was in fact rejected on one of the criteria that we do require, your online trading record was less than 2 years old. Applicant's with a trading record of under 2 years are rejected, no matter how much other criteria they pass on. To be approved as a safe trading partner for our members, all criteria must be passed.

Now some people may feel that is a very minor reason to be rejected, but our application process is designed to ensure only the safest suppliers are included in our directory for members. If we didn't have such a strong application process, then members may as well take their chances and deal with any supplier they can easily find openly on Google.

I actually agree with your point about sharing information about suppliers who do not pass the application process for minor reasons. I believe that these suppliers, such as yourself, may well still be a valuable resource to members. In fact, I suggested this idea no long ago myself, as I felt that this was waste of still valuable resources.

What I then did was to put the idea to a vote on the forum, see if other members felt the same way as I did. I invite you to read the results of this here coffee/new-supplier-resource-idea-feedback-required-t15436.html

Over 140 members viewed the post in just over 30 days, yet only fewer than 5 could even be bothered responding to it. While the few that did respond were positive about the idea, I am not able to recommend that we go any further with the idea because we have to accept the fact that the other 137 odd members that viewed the post, but didn't comment, had a negative view to the idea.

Perhaps it might have been nice to see your opinion written there.

Now, just before I move onto your final part of the post, let me go back to the approval process. Once an application has been rejected on whatever grounds, it means the supplier is not approved to market their products/services to our members through the directory or the forum. It does not mean that they can use the forum as some sort of medium where they feel they have the right to inform other members as to why they were rejected in an effort to leave the decision whether or not to deal with them up to individual members.

Nor does it give them the right to try and circumvent our ruling on the application buy using the PM option to market their products by stealth. This is simply not even close to being acceptable. If it was, the forum would be full of scammers ripping people off through PM, where we are not able to actively protect them.

Now, to your final part of the post. We authenticate each supplier as safe to deal to with at the time of the application process is approved. In the event of an issue arising between a member and an approved supplier, SaleHoo will then get involved on behalf of the member in an effort to resolve the situation between the two parties. We are unable to offer an open indemnity for any supplier as in time, situations can chance. New ownership and so on, may effect the way a supplier decides to run their business.

Of course when a member is dealing with a supplier outside of our directory, we can offer no support at all. We are unable to intervene on their behalf to resolve any issue that may arise. They are on their completely and as we have a lot of inexperienced members here on SaleHoo, finding themselves in that position, where they can't get us involved on their behalf means that they may well struggle to nego a decent outcome for themselves.

Now if members want to share supplier information with other members, then that's great. We're all for information sharing, however using the PM to circumvent a ruling made on a supplier application is simply not OK and from this moment forward, any member found doing so runs the risk of having their membership cancelled completely.


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12 Mar 14 12:56:00 am
Marc - As i mentioned earlier, I'm not disputing the forum rules. But ensuring that everyone is aware of it could be vital between make and break deal for someone trying to find a supplier. On your point on taking a poll through the forum with members on whether agree or not, I'm with you mate..I think the poll was the right way to go. But do you think it might have been effective if they were possibly mailed to the individual forum members rather than posting in an open forum? Possibly could have affected the level of responses + if you noticed, a lot of folks seem to write in the forum that they are unable to find the right supplier (which was the primary intent of the supplier directory right). Whether it due to their respective inability to research or may be due to the fact that the supplier directory is possibly filled with suppliers who might be too expensive to handle for ebay and amazon sellers.

To your point - "It does not mean that they can use the forum as some sort of medium where they feel they have the right to inform other members as to why they were rejected in an effort to leave the decision whether or not to deal with them up to individual members. Nor does it give them the right to try and circumvent our ruling on the application buy using the PM option to market their products by stealth. This is simply not even close to being acceptable. If it was, the forum would be full of scammers ripping people off through PM, where we are not able to actively protect them"

I think you are getting personal here. If in an open forum members are not allowed to share their thoughts or if the moderator always needs to decide what will be shared or should be shared, then it needs to be called out well ahead of time before folks pay the annual fee with the hope that they find value in the fourm. I'm sure you agree that "Value is a 2 way street - You give some and you get some". I gave $69 in value for membership and I'm merely hoping to my perceived value in return.

Once again as I mentioned, I think Salehoo is a great forum and community for members. But with lotsa members not finding the value they paid for, isn't the concept of forum getting diluted. If you believe my profile needs to be blacklisted or removed from the community for sharing my thoughts or for communicating through PM with individuals, do let me know. I'm happy not to contribute to the community or share knowledge gained. If the cost of being a genuine seller and sharing thoughts and helping fellow members is the risk of losing membership, then it is a different discussion, we must be having.

The idea is not to circumvent forum rules, but help people. You can't help people when in shackles... Thanks for understanding..


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12 Mar 14 02:32:58 am
Bharath,

In regards to your first point about the poll. I don't personally think sending a private poll would have delivered different results. With over 140 members reading that poll while it was active, plenty had an opportunity to share their thoughts, but decided for whatever reason, simply not to. If we had of sent the same people the same question, I don't see why we would have gotten a different result personally.

In regards to people on the forum always looking for suppliers, that is of course correct and one of the driving reasons that I was pushing to have the new layer of suppliers introduced for members. As to why people ask for suppliers on the forum, well they are quite varied. Because we have a strict application process to go through, no every supplier is approved, which in turn means that we don't have an approved supplier for every product or for every country. The application process is ongoing and over time we hope to have a much greater range of suppliers for both countries and products, but our main focus is on providing safety first.

Having said that, one of the biggest reasons that members look for other supply options is specifically for eBay. It's a very common error for new members to make, thinking that everyone on eBay is a dropshipper and then not being able to work out why some eBay prices are the same or even a little cheaper than from some of the suppliers. Of course in many cases, what members are doing is comparing a seller on eBay who is buying in high volume wholesale, then selling at a highly reduced margin to create market dominance, against a dropshippers price. No matter how many suppliers you have in a directory, no one will ever be able to deliver that sort of value and keep everyone happy. That is a matter of educating members on what is realistic and what isn't, that's not an issue with the directory as such.

As a back up service for members who do struggle to find a supplier to suit their exact needs, we also offer to search outside of our own directory and verify a supplier for them to use where ever possible. So in regards to matching supplier inquiries with usable resources, no body puts in more effort than us.

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To your second point, it's only meant personally if that is in fact what you are doing. I'm not aware of what you are sharing through PMs with members, but if you are in fact marketing your own products, then that does has to stop. The rule isn't aimed at you personally of course, we simply can't have a situation where a supplier's application is rejected, only to have them come onto the forum and market products via PM. We reject applications based on what we consider to be safety concerns, so to permit the supplier to then market to our members (who expect any supplier contact to have been fully verified by us) through other means would defeat the entire verification process.

I have no issues with the sharing of general information, in fact I absolutely welcome it. That said, my first responsibility is to maintain the safety of that information being shared for members and that is something I won't apologize for. Information of any sort, other that the sharing of supplier links or product information, is welcomed to be sent via PM between members. Information regarding suppliers or products is still welcomed by members to share, but we have to have them share it openly on the forum where everyone can share in the information and we can monitor it to ensure we can ensure the safety of such information.

Now I don't personally see why anyone would have a problem with that. The idea of sharing information such as suppliers or products should be to actually share it with anyone that might benefit, and that can be best done openly in the forum, not behind closed doors via PM.

Just to focus on your point about a moderator's role. It is in fact to maintain the integrity of the forum and ensure the guidelines are followed. That's exactly what I am doing, however I must inform members that if they disagree with any decision I make, they are able to formally complain to admin at Link hidden: Login to view.

In regards to forum posting rules being stated upfront before members pay any membership money. We have a very generous refund policy in place for any new member to cancel their membership if they are in fact unhappy with any aspect of SaleHoo whatsoever, so that would include being unhappy with such a forum regulation. To be completely honest, I can't really imagine why this would be an issue for a member to start with. We market ourselves as a safe trading platform, one that watches out for it's members where ever at all possible (such as this situation)

In relation to you getting your value for your membership. You use the word "perceived" and of course I can't commit on what your perceived value is. Any advice you want to share is most welcome, including supplier or product information, so long as that is done on the forum and it is of course not related to your website or to your products. If you perceive your value in marketing your products to other members, then as a non approved supplier, we can't of course permit that.

In relation to the forum being diluted. I would say not at all, in fact if you or anyone else is aware of a better site for the sharing and learning of information about the world of e-commerce, then feel free to post it for others to make up their own mind.

In relation to being shackled. I just want to clarify one more more time that any information you are willing to share with other members is most welcome, so long as it falls within the forum posting guidelines as I've discussed above. The trading safety for members is paramount, and my decisions will always be made with that in mind because that is my charter as the forum manager.

Cheers


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14 Mar 14 02:44:34 am
Hello Bharath,

We are sorry if your supplier application was rejected but as mentioned by Marc we do our best to ensure that we provide our members with the best suppliers, even if along the way we may have to pass up on a few promising ones. You are always welcome to re-apply once you are able to comply with our requirements. Also just so you know, our suppliers are NOT required to pay any membership fees.

You are more than welcome to help out other members on the forum but as a member and as an unapproved supplier you cannot and should not at all cost promote your site or business on the forum, even more so through PM. Otherwise we may have to remove your forum privileges (which we don't want to do at all)

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All the best!


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To get back to the OP,

Hi Shaunie,

Broadway Sun Ben Trading Inc has a great selection of scarves, sunglasses, gloves, hats and seasonal apparel. We are a NY based wholesaler that has been in business for over 30 years. We work directly with manufacturers in Asia to get the best prices and quality, but are able to provide this to you with all of the benefits of dealing with a US company. Due to our close relationship with the factories, we are also able to source specific items that you might be looking for. Feel free to contact us any time to explore our product offerings.

Check out our products at Link hidden: Login to view. Currently we have great deals on summer scarves, hats and apparel, and our 2015 Fall Collection is coming out soon!

You will need to register to see our low wholesale prices.

Looking forward to being your accessories supplier!

Christine

Broadway Sun Ben Trading Inc.
821 6th Ave. 2FL , New York , NY 10001
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