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audiotrevis071382
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DAMN!!!!!!! :shock:


audiotrevis071382
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xxxacp
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14 Dec 06 07:09:58 pm
have you dealt with all of these first hand??


jimmy_huber
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14 Dec 06 09:43:06 pm
they were probably already listed on a scam alert site. He was kind enough to share them with us :lol:


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audiotrevis071382
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If fact I HAVE delt with some of these first hand thank you NOT ALL BUT ABOUT 20 sites and $1588 later.

How do you think the scam sites get their info??...

From people who use the sites who do the scaming.


You see these sites seem diffrent in name but infact the one big scam I uncovered by actually dealing (or attemptimg to deal with them).

I've posted most of these scam sites to: ripoff report, scam.com, ebay forums Uk,Ger,Au,Fra,Ca...so far

This is a moving spam scam is a result of a group of people out of beijing (surounding area), china.

They use new sites on a weekly/monthly baisis sometimes nabbing big money off using each site. Most all are originating out of china. All offer the classic 'We only want to get paid by Western Union'....Blah Blah friiken BLAH.

Targeting ebayers mostly !!!!

With the use of whois I found some to be connected to each other. Especially the ones I chose to zero out.

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Was just the first I contacted and attempted to do buisness with (this one was virtually unknown, NOT NOW!!). Knowing it was connected to at least these sites through the same WYGIWYS website host company. I sought to find out firsthand what they do, how they act, what they say so on and so forth.

These sites were all hosted on the same apache server, a possible 429 !!!! rip off sites. It's $33 flat fee to run these sites in china. Shoot they probly own the damn host company and the servers to wash the money, then pour it into real estate. SCOTT FREE !!!

WHAT ACTUALLY FOUND Through dealings:

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and connected to over 60% of the sites listed on the above two lists all from the Beijing area :


wskh99:

placed a sample order, and of course it was the classic send them money through western union then msn them the MTCN.

Soon as they got the money they deleted me from there msn, and did not respond.

BAM confirmed rip off !!!!

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so on and so bloody forth !!!


Now the question is if anyone else is going to step up to the plate and do somthing.

I say we hack the $h*t out of them !!!!!!!!!!!!!


xxxacp
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I was just wondering, thats all.... I wasn't defending any of them...


jimmy_huber
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Thanks for the info Audiotrevis071382 . I wish there was something we could do. If they were in the USA I would personally enjoy seeing them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Hacking them I doubt would do Anything far from slowing them down for a day. With the stolen money they are laundering in. They could easily start up again without much effort. Too bad the chineese government isnt doing much about this activity and tracking down these scam artists.

Seems that scam artists like these are costing the chineese people tens of billions of dollars in possible trade.


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audiotrevis071382
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16 Dec 06 05:11:26 am
Yea, and it's actually costing the real companies the same too. They have a double edged sword (the pirates). Perfect example with the LG chocolate. China is all fake electronics, and the real stuff costs as much as retail here.

At the same time I feel sorry for the honest hard working Chinese who slave in the factories making our bicycles, real goods, and $h*t we buy in wal-mart, making $60 US per month.


 

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