Email from David DaSilva- Is this Scam?

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17 Apr 08 10:23:15 pm
Sorry if this is wrong place to post this.
I am new to selling and would like some feedback on this.
This is what the buyer wrote
Hello ,
Thanks for your quick response, Well everything sounds fine and I guess that the {Calvin Klein Fitted Sheet King SLD PRCL } is in good condition and I am okay with the price $60 and I will be willing to offer you $90 for it. And I will want you to keep all other buyer's off and also delete the advert from the website. Concerning payment my client will issue you a USPS Money Order, since I don't have the funds in your currency. For convenient and easy transaction, I have a liable shipping agent who'd be responsible for the Pick up as soon as you receive payment for the {Calvin Klein Fitted Sheet King SLD PRCL } .I will therefore need the following information of yours to forward my client before he sends the Money Order.
NAME IN FULL........
ADDRESS IN FULL....
CITY...
STATE...
COUNTRY..........
ZIPCODE.......
CELL/OFFICE/HOME PHONE NUMBER.
I await your urgent response.
Thanks!
David DaSilva..

also would like some selling tips from experience sellers
please and thanks

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17 Apr 08 11:00:47 pm
why is he wanting to pay u $30 dollars more than u asked for, and why does he want u to delete the advert from your website.
Sounds a bit strange. And as he's payment method i don't know about your transitions but a international money order would not sit faverablely with me. See if he can pay via bank deposit into your account, or use paypal. The other payment method u could use is get him to pay you thru western union. Hope this helps
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darryl

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18 Apr 08 12:52:34 am
I dont know thats why i came here for some help
this is his first email

Hello ,
I'm Mr. David DaSilva, Am a British Citizen, but live in Canada ; I came across your advert on Link hidden: Login to view and am highly interested in Purchasing the {Calvin Klein Fitted Sheet King SLD PRCL } which you offer for sale. Due to the fact that it's been a long time have been searching for it, Please I want you kindly get back to me as soon as possible with the necessary answers to the question below:

1. Are you the first owner?
2. The present condition?
3. How long has it been yours?
4. Who did you buy it from?
5. And your final asking price?
6. And why have you decide to sell it?

And I will also like you to send me Pictures to enable me view what I Intend to purchase and I will like you to know that my form of payment is through a USPS Money Order..
I await your urgent response so that we can proceed further..
Note: Please I want you to get back to me with your final asking price..
Most Sincerely,
David DaSilva..

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18 Apr 08 01:48:17 am
hi
just tell him your price, show him some pictures, tell him the condition it's in, and don't tell him who you bought it off, and don't tell him why you are selling it. Look bottom line is if he want's to buy it then you need to set your own rules to how you sell your item's not his rules. If he does'nt like that well than sell it to someone else, don't give in and tell him your whole life story, on what you are selling and for what reason. I am sure if he went into a shop and asked those questions he would'nt get so many answers to his questions. And last important question is, only and i mean only, accept your terms on how you would like to recieve payment, not on his terms. Or you will get scammed.
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darryl

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18 Apr 08 03:04:54 am
This is most definately a SCAM!!! I had the same thing on an item I had listed on Craig's list. The women told me she would trust me to take my part of the money she was sending and send the balance to her agent by wire transfer. I never answered her. My advise to you...don't e-mail this person back. Be careful!!!

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18 Apr 08 03:10:14 am
Also, from my experience, NEVER...EVER give anyone your bank account number and NEVER accept wire transfers. What they do is send you a money order or a cashier's check, you cash it at your bank, you send the extra money they want you to send to their agent and Wa La, your out, your product and the money once your bank sees it was a fake. The bank will cash the money order or the cashier's check, later when it is returned to the bank as counterfit, they debit your account...Trust me...DON'T get caught up with these theives.

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18 Apr 08 03:10:59 am
Also, from my experience, NEVER...EVER give anyone your bank account number and NEVER accept wire transfers. What they do is send you a money order or a cashier's check, you cash it at your bank, you send the extra money they want you to send to their agent and Wa La, your out, your product and the money once your bank sees it was a fake. The bank will cash the money order or the cashier's check, later when it is returned to the bank as counterfit, they debit your account...Trust me...DON'T get caught up with these theives.

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18 Apr 08 04:57:30 am
This is definately a Scam, They pull this same crap on us too.


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18 Apr 08 06:06:46 am
This is a SCAM! Don't fall for this crap. I posted some high ticketed value on craigslist and one guy emailed me saying he is interested in buying the item. So I said, Ok you can pick it up tomorrow around 1-4 pm. He emailed me the next day that he wants to offer me $1500 but here's the catch. Why would anyone willing to spend $100 more on my asking price of $1400? Next he said, I will pay with money order, western union or paypal and I will let my carrier pick the merchandise at your location but I require your name, address and phone number.

Once I read that email, I just said if you want to use your own carrier to pick up the merchandise, then have the cash ready on pickup =)

Then I said, I will report you to authority for scamming! After that email, he never emailed me back LOL!

Never fall for this SCAM!

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18 Apr 08 06:23:52 pm
Thanks a bunch for the replys
glad i came here for help and not fall in this scam
you people are great!

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20 Apr 08 10:46:08 am
out of curiosity, how does this scam work?

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jimmy_huber
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20 Apr 08 02:36:10 pm
out of curiosity, how does this scam work?


This is a common US Postal Money Order Scam. The questions, The Story And everything the so called buyer said is just part of the scam to make it sound more convincing


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20 Apr 08 05:43:50 pm
Speaking of scams, I have a question for the elders here..

I was speaking with one of the wholesalers, and they said that 'before we start talking about prices, here are 2 forms to fill out.'

One form requests for the complete credit card information, including the 3 digit CVV2 code on the back of the card. The other is a licensing agreement which asks for your basic personal info. such as name, acct. number, etc.

Is that normal?

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20 Apr 08 06:02:55 pm
No, this does not even sound remotely normal. Careful you are about to be scammed. No one asks for cc info before you review their products and prices. You only provide such info on a secure order page with your order total including cost of shipping with all your ship info.
Some wholesalers might ask you for resell lic. number or maybe your social security number if you live in us to run a credit check, but only then if they are offering credit terms. NEVER give your personel info to anyone unless you know exactly who or what company you are dealing with.. Even if i feel conifident about the people i am buying from,My first order I will use paypal just to see how that transaction went..
You can never be too careful when dealing with a new supplier..
If someone is rushing you to purchase or special deal only right now-walk away, you will be dollars ahead in the long run..


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21 Apr 08 02:29:34 am
This is a Scam;

What you may want to do; (All Sellers) is to check out the F.B.I web site for all of the latest scams you will find it very educational and it helps a whole lot when you dont know if its a scam. check it out at Link hidden: Login to view

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21 Apr 08 06:53:23 am
Speaking of scams, I have a question for the elders here..

I was speaking with one of the wholesalers, and they said that 'before we start talking about prices, here are 2 forms to fill out.'

One form requests for the complete credit card information, including the 3 digit CVV2 code on the back of the card. The other is a licensing agreement which asks for your basic personal info. such as name, acct. number, etc.

Is that normal?


This right here is a very good chance of getting scammed. All this personal information is ripe for identity theft. Why would a wholesaler ask you to fill out a form with that much detail?.

I can get this info on a online form. My merchant account will get this info when you checkout and it does it online. And I never see your CW2 code. I would only ask this info if we were doing the transaction manually over the phone because you could not complete it online.

So I would only give the cwd code if it is a secure online form. Any normal website form I would never release that info.

I also would never accept payment over $1,000 by credit card as well. If the transaction was high I would invoice the buyer with My bank info and they could transfer payment by bank transfer.


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21 Apr 08 08:36:37 am
One form requests for the complete credit card information, including the 3 digit CVV2 code on the back of the card.


Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it illegal for merchants to keep or store CVV2 codes?

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21 Apr 08 08:17:13 pm
Thats what I thought. And get this, once I emailed back stating that I'm still in the process of starting my business and hesitant to provide credit card information online, the 'wholesaler' said:

'thats fine. Just fill out the forms, and then we'll continue on.' and ended it like that.. Talk about pleasant customer service eh? :)


This right here is a very good chance of getting scammed. All this personal information is ripe for identity theft. Why would a wholesaler ask you to fill out a form with that much detail?.

I can get this info on a online form. My merchant account will get this info when you checkout and it does it online. And I never see your CW2 code. I would only ask this info if we were doing the transaction manually over the phone because you could not complete it online.

So I would only give the cwd code if it is a secure online form. Any normal website form I would never release that info.

I also would never accept payment over $1,000 by credit card as well. If the transaction was high I would invoice the buyer with My bank info and they could transfer payment by bank transfer.

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21 Apr 08 09:58:39 pm
I wanted to make sure that everyone knows that MONEY ORDERS CAN HAVE A STOP PAYMENT PUT ON THEM JUST LIKE A CHECK. I managed a bank branch for a couple years and i was shocked to hear that too. The way its done is the money order buyer will report it lost, the bank stops the payment to do investigation. This happened to me and i lost a $400 Palm Pilot on ebay and that is why i do not accept money orders either.

I also would never never never sign up with any company that would require my CC be stored in their computers. There is just too many things that will go wrong. Seriously.

Anytime anyone offers you more for anything .....RUN!
Good luck and thanks again Jimmy for providing such great products in my shipment and being on the up and up. The last two days I made double what I paid for my shipment.

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21 Apr 08 11:26:58 pm
wow thanks for the info midwestliquidationgroup
i didnt know that now i wont be accepting money orders either

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22 Apr 08 12:57:07 am
My merchant account will not store credit card info. I cant even veiw numbers on credit card or the 3 digit codes on the back. I dont know why anyone would ask for this info. If you had already made an order and was doing the payment by phone I would understand but for a company to ask for this info prior to a sale is very suspicious to me.


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23 Apr 08 02:14:46 pm
On my store I do accept checks and money orders, however, I clearly state that all orders paid for by check or money order are not processed for 14 business days to ensure that the check or money order clears the bank. If it can go 3 weeks without getting returned then I know that it is good.

Someone asked about how the one scam was done and here is the full breakdown on it.

The scammer orders something but then pays you with a money order or check and over pays for the item. They ask you to 'Just give the overpayment to their pick up person' or send it back to them in a wire. Usually 7 to 10 business days later you are notified by the bank that the MO or the check bounced and now you are out the item, the money paid for the item but most important, they just robbed your account of the money for the overpayment.

Because of this scam, I have in my terms of payment statement on the website, 'Any checks or money orders for an amount greater than the full purchase amount will be returned and the order canceled due to the high rate of fraud committed by this act.'

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24 Apr 08 05:25:40 pm
I didn't even have to read far at all to instantly tell this is a total fraud and scam. I'm very experienced and familiar with this style of writing and scam. It's probably 99.99% guaranteed this is a black person from somewhere in Africa, most likely Nigeria. I have an electronics website and have seen every con and scam artist possible. It didn't take me long at all to recognize these losers when I first started my online business. I even had several counterfeit checks sent to me from Africans (Nigerians), some of them laughable because they were so obviously fraudulent. Don't ever fall for something too good to be true because reality is it's always a scam and fraud. Good luck. :)

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24 Apr 08 05:45:54 pm
The reason that they want the cvv 3 digit code is so that they can have unlimited access to using the card..It's like stealing a car, you can still use it by 'hot-wiring' it , but it's alot easier if you have the ignition key.

There are still a ton of places both online and off that don't ask for the cvv when making certain purchases. But there are just as many that do ask for the code...If you have the code you can pretty much use the card at will for anything....

A dealer or company on the up and up won't have to ask you for your credit card info. Their shopping cart will take care of that when you make your purchase..If someone is asking for all the things that you mentioned, they are probably 'phiching'.

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24 Apr 08 10:30:40 pm
Hey everyone,

For anyone that's interested in which wholesaler I am referring to. It was bumpinthenightproductions.com. When you click on wholesale, it refers you to purchase your merchandise from another company called MorrisCostumes.com.

My merchant account will not store credit card info. I cant even veiw numbers on credit card or the 3 digit codes on the back. I dont know why anyone would ask for this info. If you had already made an order and was doing the payment by phone I would understand but for a company to ask for this info prior to a sale is very suspicious to me.

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27 Apr 08 12:25:44 pm
It's probably 99.99% guaranteed this is a black person from somewhere in Africa, most likely Nigeria.


Someone always has to bring race into it.

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27 Apr 08 06:01:59 pm

Someone always has to bring race into it.




Lol it probably wasn't necessary to say 'some black person from Nigeria' you could have said people from Nigeria and other African countries.


On the other hand, hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud are done per year by people in Nigeria and other African countries, which are almost completely black besides some areas of South Africa...so technically his statement is correct.

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27 Apr 08 06:55:43 pm



Lol it probably wasn't necessary to say 'some black person from Nigeria' you could have said people from Nigeria and other African countries.


On the other hand, hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud are done per year by people in Nigeria and other African countries, which are almost completely black besides some areas of South Africa...so technically his statement is correct.


Not everyone in Africa is black. I was born in Africa and I'm not black :wink:

I got scammed by an american guy... this is his pic: Link hidden: Login to view

Yes that's really him....

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27 Apr 08 09:51:05 pm
and here's a quote from him aswell.


RE: TurboSIMs and other solution?
From: John Castro (Link hidden: Login to view)
Sent: Monday, 17 December 2007 6:50:51 AM

John,

Listen motherf*****, I have 11 TurboSIMs because I bought a wholesale bulk a long time ago in order to rip off their technology. I have an International Forwarding Agency with a small $160K a year International Sales Division. And yes, I was urged to run for Mayor of Laredo because I published a book and gained statewide recognition. I have friends on both sides of the aisle all over the Texas Capitol and Congress. I'm the last person you want to insult.

And yes, I decided to make a quick $50K by ripping off TurboSIMs technology and selling it to a firm in Germany that wants to market this product via televison in the United States on CNBC while placing Put Options on AT&T stock to profit from its sink once news of this new GodSIM becomes public. I'm personally in talk with hedge funds across the Northeast. I'm also brokering a deal with Federal Police Minister of Argentina for 20,000 rubber bullet guns and oversee international forwarding operations for several government officials.

So, all I wanted to do was dump these shitty TurboSIMs ASAP because I'm going on a $13K EuroTrip this Holiday Season. And yes, I posted the GodSIM to test the response rate. It was high enough to interest me. I could have just flushed the damn TubroSIMs down the toilet, but I'm a greedy SOB and make a buck where a buck can be made. That's how the rich stay rich. The pathetic part is that I'm only 24 years old and more successful than you can ever even dream of becoming.

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28 Apr 08 12:45:38 am
Hehehe, he wasn't so cocky after I sicced the FBI on his ass :lol: :lol: :lol:

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And yes, I decided to make a quick $50K by ripping off TurboSIMs technology and selling it to a firm in Germany that wants to market this product via televison in the United States on CNBC while placing Put Options on AT&T stock to profit from its sink once news of this new GodSIM becomes public.



Iv gotta admit this guy has a creative imagination haha. If he accually did even 1% of the stuff he listed to you he is very dumb to tell you in an email about it.

Btw when you contact the FBI have they said anything to you, or was there any resolution?

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28 Apr 08 04:54:34 am
lol Couldn't agree more.

Well I heard nothing from the FBI directly. All I got was an automatically generated FBI report number sent to me by email. Apparently, unless the fraud is over $15k they won't even look at it.

Luckily though, this guy is running for office so he pretty much wet himself when I told him I'd filed an FBI report on him and his company. The refunds literally came through just hours after I sent him the email.

Basically I got lucky. Google checkout and the FBI didn't want to know about it. Luckily for me this guy was an idiot. Most spammers aren't as stupid as this guy, they don't give out their real names and they don't give a crap about their reputations.

And another thing, never ever use Google checkout. No contact phone number, no email responses, no nothing. I found out the hard way that they just don't care about the little people, they're just out to make $$$$. And I'm not the only one who's disgusted with Google, check this:

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This is a SCAM! Don't fall for this crap. I posted some high ticketed value on craigslist and one guy emailed me saying he is interested in buying the item. So I said, Ok you can pick it up tomorrow around 1-4 pm. He emailed me the next day that he wants to offer me $1500 but here's the catch. Why would anyone willing to spend $100 more on my asking price of $1400? Next he said, I will pay with money order, western union or paypal and I will let my carrier pick the merchandise at your location but I require your name, address and phone number.

Once I read that email, I just said if you want to use your own carrier to pick up the merchandise, then have the cash ready on pickup =)

Then I said, I will report you to authority for scamming! After that email, he never emailed me back LOL!

Never fall for this SCAM!




Guess what? lol I actually did fall for this scam the other day. I was testing Craigslist for the first time selling a high value good, the same description as you stated he emailed to me, but the real bad part is I actually fell for all of it some how. He said he mailed out my check but he said he mistakenly sent out the wrong payment and it was for 2,000 more than what my asking was and he asked if after depositing it if I could western union the rest, and guess what, it was suppose to be western unioned to the UK and im in the US. I actually deposited the check thinking it was real but I had this real bad feeling when going down to the bank to deposit it and so after I went back home and went on to craigslist to see what scams to avoid and sure enough most of those descriptions fit my situation perfectly. Now im not sure if I should email him back to say im gonna report him or if I should ignore his emails because it sucks that I had to give him my address to mail the check.

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