SEO service advice needed

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misenlai
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11 Oct 11 06:14:40 pm
Hi,

I'm looking for an SEO to help me with marketing the website. There are however so many companies out there. Can anyone suggest a good SEO firm that they have worked with in the past and have good success with?

Appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Jack

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fm1234
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11 Oct 11 09:18:35 pm
I suggest that you don't hire anyone at all, but rather look at sites like seobook.com which give out huge amounts of useful information for free.


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fm1234
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11 Oct 11 09:20:41 pm
Parenthetically, if you're talking about outsourcing some of the more menial stuff like linkbuilding, rather than hire a firm with an "elegant storefront" you'll save a huge amount of money going to WickedFire.com, ignoring all the political and porn posts, head into the Buy, Sell & Trade section and hire one of the guys there. There are dozens of service providers there at any given time, and new ones daily -- stay away from anyone that doesn't have feedback from an established member. The users Red_Virus and MDSandB I have used extensively myself and highly recommend.


Frank


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misenlai
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11 Oct 11 10:19:20 pm
Thanks for the feedback. However

I have couple issues.
1. I don't have time to do SEO myself.
2. I don't have time to optimize 300 keywords and managing PPC and be able to get all these keywords on top of google.
3. We are looking for hundred of thousands or million visitors per month. While I believe myself or someone outsourced can do SEO, it's hard to compete with competitors on the first page who spent hundreds of thousands on SEO.
4. Random outsourced service or random freelancer seems to have the tendency of using Black Hat SEO. It might work for short-term like 1-2 years. Who knows we will get banned from google down the road.

So if anyone have any experience with any legit company, please let me know.

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12 Oct 11 12:42:58 am
Hi misenlai,

I have not personally paid any SEO company myself but I found this comparative list of SEO companies that might help you determine which company is best suited to your needs -

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If you're not located in the US, they also have a list for most other locations worldwide like, UK, Australia, Canada and India. (just click the links at the top to get the right edition based on your location)

Hope this helps :)


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fm1234
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12 Oct 11 05:21:45 am
@misenlai

With all due respect, I don't think that you've really researched the SEO market very well, based on your concerns.


I have couple issues.
1. I don't have time to do SEO myself.
2. I don't have time to optimize 300 keywords and managing PPC and be able to get all these keywords on top of google.


You'll never get any given set of 300 keywords to the "top" of Google, particularly if they are generally related terms. On the off chance that you were not using hyperbole, just for the record any firm which claims that it can do so -- for any price -- is simply lying, and will get you in the fine print.


3. We are looking for hundred of thousands or million visitors per month.

While I believe myself or someone outsourced can do SEO, it's hard to compete with competitors on the first page who spent hundreds of thousands on SEO.

4. Random outsourced service or random freelancer seems to have the tendency of using Black Hat SEO. It might work for short-term like 1-2 years. Who knows we will get banned from google down the road.


I don't know how a specific service provider referral from an established member at both sites involved qualifies as "random outsource/freelancer" but setting that aside, any SEO firm you retain is just going to subcontract out all the grunt work to the same people, and charge you a 200-300% premium for being the middleman.

If you'd check out the other site I recommended, seobook.com, Aaron Wall does provide SEO consultation for $300 a month, and he is generally considered one of the most knowledgeable people in that field. You might also have a look at seomoz.org; it is a phenomally useful software and service for building and tracking SEO efforts. Its clients include Facebook, Disney, Yahoo and a number of other very big names, and it costs as little as $100 a month. The "elegant storefront" SEO companies are simply taking the information they get from places like SEObook and SEOmoz, and the services they get off of places like WickedFire, rating them up by hundreds of percent and popping a nice sales pitch on the front end.

Sincerely trying to save you what could be a significant amount of money. If you're looking at such an ambitious project, and are prepared to shell out funds for a consultant, you'd likely come out far better just hiring an office person at secretarial rates to manage the campaigns you generate out of data from sites such as those I've mentioned. The amount of cash saved is significant enough that it's worth considering.


Frank


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